Bump, for those asking in the Major (Recent)Changes thread.
I'm surprised this got by so many people. I was in at the time and caught it, but none of my relatives did.
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No More Missionaries
by Lunatic Faith inhas anyone heard about this?
we received an email from an old friend who is still an elder and doesn't know what we are up to.
"a change, they are no longer training missionaries and sending them into foreign fields.
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Bullet list of major (recent) changes
by RN init is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.
his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.
when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.
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@ slimboyfat & fugue
Yes, Gilead was downgraded, but of course they tried to downplay it. The change was in a BOE letter read during the 10/11 KM part quoted above. The most recent yearbook is the only place the change is mentioned in print for the R&F; even then it only gets a throwaway mention that's easy to miss.
EDITED to add the thread link of that discussion: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/216973/1/No-More-Missionaries
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Anchorage, Alaska
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Watchtower re "The New World Order"
by Nambo innow the watchtower is so named for they keep on the watch right?.
for those of you still in, or that still see the mags, have they ever once even mentioned the "new world order", or one world government or even globalisation?.
ive been on a forum or two where the average joe, who doesnt even belive in, or are not even aware of god, the bible and revelation, are fully aware of the push towards globalisation and a single world government, where you wont be able to buy or sell unless you accept thier chip, of the f.e.m.a.
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Funny you should mention that, Londo, 'cause the mention of a FEMA conspiracy brought back memories of Majectic 12, UNATCO, and nanotech. Good times.
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Bullet list of major (recent) changes
by RN init is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.
his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.
when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.
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1999 : Regular pioneer hours decrease from 90 avg/month to 70
2011: Gilead stops accepting missionaries
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For all the newbies.. the Belief-O-Matic...what religion should you be? Test your religious beliefs.
by jemba ini noticed that this thread has been done before by blacksheep but i loved doing this test and i loved the results i got... apparently i need to look into reformed judaism.
jemba .
sorry firefox wont let me cut n paste but heres the website:.
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1. Liberal Quakers (100%)
2. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (97%)
3. Neo-Pagan (95%)
4. Unitarian Universalism (93%)
5. Mahayana Buddhism (86%)
I don't know how in the world Mainline Christian Protestants fit in with the rest... Witnesses were dead last of course.
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Christain terms I never heard of as a Jehoavh's Witnee??
by Butterflyleia85 inis it me or is it i been out to long to remeber but terms like - grace, jesus being immanuel, gospels, epistles.
etc they have a lot of meaning to christians yet all i truly remember is jesus being ark angel, the messiah, undeserve kindness, greek and roman scripture, etc.. .
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carla: "I don't think jw's use these either in reference to God, He is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent."
It's not that they don't use them, more that they don't believe two of them. JWs specifically teach that God is not omnipresent, and that He can know all things but not unless He tries (such as when He was going to Sodom to confirm what He heard).
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Ancient Hebrew? Yes. Inscribed where? New Mexico!
by Terry inancient hebrew inscribed on a rock in new mexicowikipedia.
picture this: you're an archaeologist minding your own business in new mexico when a guy comes up and tells you he's got something to show you.
once you check to make sure he's wearing pants and double check to make sure you've got a gun, you follow him to this town outside albuquerque called los lunas.
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I heard something similar in a song:
"And I believe - That ancient Jews built boats and sailed to America."
Book of Mormon anyone?
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She's trying to make her a publisher...
by MsGrowingGirl20 insoooo, i've been sudying the bible with a 10 year old girl for two years now...her mother recently got baptised.
since i've been having doubts about the org i've centered our discussions on god and the bible and less on pleasing the org...i was doing fine.... until i invited an older pioneer sister to accompany me on the study....heeeeeeesh...she changed the topic from having manners to becoming an unbaptised publisher....she went onnnnn and onnnnn about "don't you want to please jehovah and jesus, wouldn't you like to put in a form every month and you do love jehovah and want to tell others about him,right?
" i was so upset.. i treat and love this girl as if she was my little sister and i do not want her to nose dive into this religion...she's a child for god's sake!.
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Believe me, we know how difficult it is. Everything about removing oneself and others is difficult, and it doesn't get any easier the longer you wait.
In my congregation the elders made sure that after the study book or two was over, the parents would then be fully responsible and pioneers couldn't count time for that one anymore.
With you being "marked" and no "progress" being made after two years, they will eventually take her away from you, and I'd bet on sooner rather than later. And if it's five years from now and she gets baptized, it will be because she never knew she had any other options.
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does matthew 7:13,14
by therevealer inprove anything close to what jw's teach.
and that is that there is only one true religion.
the thread "is worship deserved?
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Strictly speaking, the scripture says nothing about only one true religion, it just says narrow road. Who's to say there aren't some of different religions on that road? It parallels the "narrow door" speach, which simply implies that doing the right thing is difficult, not that only people of a certain faith can do it.